Because of the fall, we are by nature dead to joy in God. Because of the cross, we can experience more joy in God than we ever could have had in Eden. How much joy did the curse cost me? By his curse on creation, didn’t God intentionally put a limiter on the joy we can have in him in this life? Wow — a solid question from a podcast listener named Michael. “Hello, Pastor John! Can you explain what the futility/fall/curse costs us today regarding our felt experience of joy? I believe this was the deliberate act of God. So, even for obedient Christians, how does the intention of God to subject all of us, and all of creation, under futility/fall/curse cost us in God-glorifying joy? It seems to me that God intentionally put a limiter on our joy experience in this world, and thus he likewise put a limit on how much we can glorify him too. Am I wrong here?” Read or listen to this interview at our website: https://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/how-much-joy-did-the-curse-cost-me Find other recent and popular Ask Pastor John episodes: https://www.desiringgod.org/ask-pastor-john