The New Testament doesn’t apply the term “pastor” to any leader in the church, but only to qualified men who oversee and teach the flock. Today we jump feet first into a boiling debate over whether female church leaders should be called “pastors.” The question comes to us from a listener named Nick. “Hello, Pastor John! My church is changing its view on the use of the word ‘pastor’ to include women, saying Ephesians 4:11 11 And he gave some `to be' apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; is the only place in the Bible where the Greek word for ‘pastor’ is ever used, and that it doesn’t have any specific qualifications there. Women could fill this role and still be under male headship and a male elder board, almost more like a deacon or deaconess who leads specific ministries in the church — like a pastor over worship, or a pastor over women’s ministry. But would this change in title be in line with other parts of Scripture?” Read or listen to this interview at our website: https://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/should-we-call-female-leaders-pastors Find other recent and popular Ask Pastor John episodes: https://www.desiringgod.org/ask-pastor-john